An Online Magazine in the Reality-Based Community.

I wasn't kidding when I said the NC wingnuts are sick

Saturday, April 30, 2005



Commissioners Jennifer Roberts and Parks Helms want to bring Mecklenburg County into the 21st century by supporting anti-discrimination laws that include gays and lesbians and add domestic partner benefits. There's a battle ahead of them that includes combatting a level of ignorance that is not to be believed.

[UPDATE (Sat 10PM): Welcome, AMERICABloggers. Thanks for stopping by to see the insanity of this low-life elected official. I've added more letters to and from the Commissioner]

Holy sh*t (pun intended). When I posted a few days ago that members of the Mecklenburg County Commission said they would advocate for domestic partner benefits, Commissioners Parks Helms and Jennifer Roberts expected a firestorm from the bible-beating, homo-hating Right. The county, which includes Charlotte, has a number of large companies in the area that do offer domestic partner benefits, but it hey didn't have to wait long to find out what the wingnuts thought of the county taking that action...

Bill James, a Repug (of course), is serving his third two-year term on the Mecklenburg Board of County Commissioners, representing District 6. This redneck bumf*ck is in desperate need of therapy, and I would add, a bit more literacy, sex ed and access to factual information. His obsession with real or perceived sex acts is, well, insane. Note the preoccupation with male sexuality...

Bill James - one of the ignorant faces of hate and bigotry in NC.

From: Commissioner Bill James
To: =emails deleted=
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: Perversity is not diversity

You really think that a pool of people (homosexuals) where 45% of them eat feces from the rear end of another male is "normal"? If you do, you are frankly nuts.

A lifestyle where one of their past times is buying gerbils and hamsters from the pet store and cramming them up their rears in an activity called feltching? A group of people who like to urinate on their partners and call them "golden showers"? Where one of the honored members of the Gay Alliance is an organization called the "Man-Boy Love Association" that promotes sex with underage boys?

That behavior is worthy of protection? That behavior is worthy to be taught in our schools? to our children? You are one sick "Independent, white, married-heterosexual, presbyterian" if you do.

The stat's below are unimpeachable. I intend on talking about each and every one of these "behaviors" if this sorted subject comes up. I am lining up speakers including Doctors and Nurses to talk about these in gruesome detail. And these are the behaviors that Parks Helms wants to "insure"?

Attached is a wav file with a Charlotte news account of one of those "feltching" accounts gone wrong. I will play it from the BOCC dais if this comes up.

This attached account stars Robert D. Raiford in a real news account when he read the news from a local radio show in Charlotte . He now plays in County funded show "The Mecklenburgers".

This and more is summarized at the attached web page.

In a 1994 survey of 2,500 homosexual men in The Advocate (a national homosexual magazine). The results were published in the August 23, 1994 issue are as follows (warning again - this material is explicit):

Sex acts homosexual men say they love:

Insertive oral intercourse 72%
Receptive oral intercourse 71%
Insertive anal intercourse 46%
Receptive anal intercourse 43%
Receptive anilingus (tongue in the anus) 45%
Insertive anilingus 29%
Sex acts they engaged in (last five years):

Three-way sex 48%
Group sex (four or more) 24%
Bondage & discipline sex 20%
Use of nipple clamps 19%
Sadomasochism 10%
Where they met their "partners" (last five years):

Bar/disco 65%
Bathhouse, sex club 29%
Adult bookstore 27%
Park, bathroom 26%
Roadside rest area 15%
Most (57%) report having had more than 30 partners over their lifetime, and about a third (35%) report more than 100 partners.

About one quarter (26%) of HIV-positive men who have had insertive oral intercourse have had sex in another man’s mouth, most typically with someone they have just met.

Among men who have had insertive anal intercourse in the past year, 44% had sex with a partner without a condom. Among those who had receptive anal intercourse in the past year, 58% had a partner who had sex with them without a condom.

Among HIV-infected men who have had insertive anal intercourse in the past year, 19% had sex without wearing a condom. They most typically did this with long-term partners or with men with whom they had a purely sexual encounter rather than within the context of a relationship.

Anilingus (tongue on or in the anus) is fairly common:

41% have performed it in the past year, and 47% have received it.
When engaging in insertive and receptive anilingus, only 4% to 5%, respectively, have used dental dams to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.
Among men who had had a positive result from an HIV antibody test, 11% have said or implied that they were HIV-negative in order to have sex.

Another study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in 1972 revealed that 50% of male homosexuals have had over 500 different sexual partners. Other studies show that AIDS victims average 1,100 different sexual partners.

In one study, two homosexual researchers found that 73% of adult male homosexuals had had sex with boys age 19 or younger. 93% report anal sexual relations.

92% report oral/anal sexual activity.
17% report eating and/or rubbing themselves with the feces of their partners.
29% report urinating on or in their partners.
37% report sadomasochism.
42% report "handballing" or "fisting" where the hand or arm is inserted into the rectum of their partner.
32% report bondage.
12% report giving or receiving of enemas for sexual pleasure.
15% report sex with animals.

You know, Republicans want the Democrats to bring it up because they see it finishing off the Democrats next year. The statement I get the most is "if your opponent is self-destructing, let him do it".

Commissioner Bill James
Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners
Matthews, North Carolina
http://billjames.org
Wjames@carolina.rr.com
This is out of control bullsh*t. I'm sick of this kind of sex obsession when all we're talking about are civil rights. The only people thinking about sex and orifices in this debate are the far-Right Taliban types that are likely engaging in much of this behavior since they are studying it so hard. It's embarrassing to think the majority of people in his 150,000-population district actually voted for this bastard.



James also made national headlines fairly recently by asserting publicly that urban black children '...could not be taught...' because they are raised in a 'moral sewer' constructed by their parents. He also got a very public smack down on Hannity & Colmes for his extremism. He is a publicity whore.

As the person that passed this on to me said, "The more extreme the Religious Right gets, the more it can help the causes of liberty and justice for all by exposing the hatred and xenophobia that fuels its actions rather than the 'Love One Another' admonition the faith was founded upon. Bill James needs some serious therapy to get to the root of the pain and damage within that causes him to spew this sewage from his own personal moral sewer."

To send emails of support -- here you go:
Parks Helms PHelms@helmshenderson.com
Jennifer Roberts Roberjw@co.mecklenburg.nc.us

***

[UPDATE 2: After AMERICABlog picked up this piece, there were a ton of comments over there. I picked a first few. Karl the Idiot posted the letter he sent both over at AB and the comments here. It was a howler...]

Letters to the Commissioner...

Dear Commissioner James,

I do think you didn't go far enough. You recently wrote this:
"You really think that a pool of people (homosexuals) where 45% of them eat feces from the rear end of another male is "normal"? If you do, you are frankly nuts."

But why modify your description of this practice by reference to gender, or, indeed, sexuality? Putting aside the fact that lesbians may also engage in this activity, so might heterosexuals. Heterosexuals may be eating feces from each other's rear ends! This disgusting practice no doubt leads to burdens on the non-feces eating taxpayers in the form of time lost to work owing to feces-eating-related sickness. Let alone the future pain and suffering of Hell reserved for all willing eaters of feces above the age of 2! You need to step up and try to pass a law that would prevent all feces eating, of whatever sort, of whatever sexuality, of whatever combination of genders! You need to step up and investigate the sex lives of all your citizens.

Perhaps a questionnaire would be the way to go. Simply mail something out to everyone in your district that says, "Dear Sir (or Madam): Do you eat feces from your sexual partner's rear end? If so, please be informed that you are in violation of the law."

Yours in Christ,
Karl the Idiot
***

Dear Commissioner James:

I am male, and lick my female wife's anus and sometimes "felch." Should I turn in my marriage license?

Frank Perry
***

Commissioner Bill James,

I have never been so astonished by one man's hate as I was by you through your letter. Let me first say that I am a Christian, straight, married and a father of three sons. Second let me say that I hope that they never come in contact with a man who suffers from your lack of character, compassion and intelligence. The study you site is bogus. But you know that. The hate and lies you spread can only be result of your own fear and insecurity.

My God said that the greatest of his gifts was love, he did not stipulate. Please open you heart and you mind to others.

Short of that, I have included your letter below so that you may ingest your own feces. It is the least you could do, to truly taste the shit you are asking others to eat.

Sincerely,
dad
***

Dear Commissioner James:

Do you sodomize your wife?
***

Dear Commisar James,

Your rather bizarre catalog of various sexual acts does make at least one thing perfectly clear. You seem to have a rather unusual preoccupation with other people's sexual behaviour.

Perhaps the important question you should be concentrating on is not one of public policy, but instead to discover why you are so obsessed with male-male sexual behavior.

As a side note please let me assure you that it is Americans such as yourself that really help make the rest of the world think we are a dangerously disturbed society. Living in Germany now I grow tired of trying to explain abberent behavior such as yours to others. In fact I couldn't possibly explain your strange obsession (in your capacity as a public official, no less) with the graphic details of other peoples sexual practices. Can you?

alles gut

Dresden, Germany
***
Dear Commissoner James,

I applaud you for your courage in taking a stand against the evil practices of certain segments of the population who feel it is necessary to harm small rodents in the act of gaining sexual gratification. We here at the Animal Liberation Front stand shoulder to shoulder with you against the evil Buddhist, Richard Gere. We are filled to the rim with pride. Now if you will excuse me, I must get back to the wonderful rim job your wife is doing by tounging my rectum.

ALF PETA
***
Dear Commissioner James,

I read your letter titled "Perversity is not diversity" with great interest. This letter clearly displays your incredible sex knowledge that could only have been gained by long years of extensive in-depth research.

I am also a sex researcher. I am 49 years old, a navy veteran married twice and have been actively researching sex during most of my adult life. Of course, neither my first wife nor my present wife shares my research interest. I'm sure you understand. No proper Christian woman would ever have anything to do with sex. But I digress.

The point of this e-mail is to ask about your research methods and sources. Despite all my years of research, I had never heard of most of the sexual perversions you describe in your letter. It's not that I don't believe you of course. I would never think that an elected official could possibly make this stuff up.

My second-hand research sources over the years include such monthly periodicals as "SWANK," "Hustler," "Swinging Singles," "Hot Horny Housewives," and the esteemed "Sex Kittens and Their Toys." My Internet research has led me to such websites as "Sex Toys," "Honey Suckle," "Hot Black Honeys," "Asian Perversions" and many others. I've even done extensive study with such training videos as "Sex Around The World," "Back Door To Sweden," and of course the classic "The Many Ways of Kama Sutra."

Second-hand research such as it is, I've also engaged in extensive first-hand research interviews. My best sources have come in ribald sailor towns around the world, but I've also found many excellent local sources right here in Mississippi.

Regrettably, I have never met women during my research that knew many of the things your letter describes. I admit, I may have artificially limited my research scope. I've researched man-on-woman sex, woman-on-woman sex and many-women-on-one-man sex, but never man-on-man sex. As I'm not an animal lover, I have also avoided man-on-dog and other interspecies sex. Maybe this is why I've missed all the perversities you describe? It must be true that heterosexual people would never engage in these practices, or else my research would have revealed this by now.

So just where and how did you acquire such in-depth knowledge of sexual perversions? I would greatly appreciate the reference periodicals and websites you have used. Training videos? Could you refer me to the people you have worked with? My present wife won't mind if I interview them, her being a good Christian and all.

This is important work you're doing. There can be no higher calling for a good Christian than preventing other people from engaging in perverse sexual activities. After all, if the Missionary Position was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for all of us.

Please continue you good work.
***
For every "study" you can produce about homosexual behavior, I bet I can produce 1000 showing how HETEROsexual men engage in behaviors dangerous to society (gun violence, robberies, rape, abuse, corruption, gangs, war crimes, kidnapping, drunk driving, arson, illegal drugs, deadbeat dads, Enron, Watergate, the Mafia), and we haven't outlawed them yet. Heterosexual men commit the vast majority of all crimes in America, if not the world. What action are you taking to protect us against the scourge that hetero men are bringing upon us?

Doesn't the Bible say something about judging other people? You may want to reflect on how Jesus treated others - with love and compassion. I pray you will turn to Jesus and ask him to help make you a better, more Christ-like man.


Favorite comments from AMERICABlog:

He is my commissioner (Mecklenburg county). He is not from North Carolina, originally. He is a bigot. He is a racist. He is an uber-homophobe. He's fat, and has a diseased liver. He whined when the play "Angels in America" came to Charlotte. He has even been on Sean Hannity's show. I truly despise Bill James.

***

...normal straights do NOT obsess on gay sex PERIOD, much less the things he describes, such as noted in the article.

Sorry, he is TOO obsessed. Closet case, for sure.

***

Pam's House Blend always seems to find these sick f*cks. The area of the country she is in? The home state of her wife? I know, there are everywhere. Pam just does such a great job of bringing them out into the light.

Why in the world don't we go trollin' for shots of STRAIGHT perversions and send 'em to Bubba?

From this straight chick, I can tell you, Bubba has already provided a good list to start with!

WHY, WHY, WHY, do these sick freaks always focus on male/male sex?? I really think that it is telling where their mind is. Whoever said it above, that 'normal straights' don't focus on the sex acts of homosexuals...you are SO right! I really just don't focus on the sex acts of anyone else -- it is all about ME BABY!

I do think that is really a guy thing though. The whole 'visual'. Girls, we don't need that. I know, some are into porn, but not the vast majority. These freeks that focus so much on sex acts though...they none of them mention anything about girl/girl...hell no, don't want that to go away!

***

Query....Who has 11 years of Advocate issues saved away? Answer...someone who keeps them locked up in a footlocker in the garage. When he's out in the garage lubing the old pickup he's lubing something else as well.

***

1. There is no sexual act that any gay/lesbian person has attempted, alone or with someone(s) else, that was not perfected by some sick straight prevert first (although the mechanics may be different for homos - please consult your user's manual.

2. I know a lot of people into some pretty kinky sh*t in the gay community, and I am certainly not a prude when it comes to the sexually adventurous, but I have NEVER heard of felching EXCEPT from repressed right-wing morons like this guy.

3. Oh, it goes on and then some. I wonder if Commissioner James drinks his wife's saliva or vaginal secretions? - even worse, consider this: at least 30% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, often before the woman even knows she conceived, and percentage could be as high as 50%. This means that many straight men who perform oral sex (e.g., sodomy) on their wives have likely ingested the remnants of a miscarried embryo or fetus. That seems like a delightful thing to experience.

***

This sort of thing is why I think there should be a web site titled "Straight Marriage Hall of Shame."

A site with names and photos and deeds: Susan Smith, Andrea Yates, Mark Hacking, the mother in Philadelphia who killed her seven children, OJ Simpson, etc. The couples who take in foster children for money and starve them (Newark). The California father who set his son on fire in a custody battle.

You could fill volumes with the moral crimes of straight couples.

This would be a good way to hold up a mirror and say "look at yourself."

***

boyfriend in Charlotte sho does know lots of stuff and certainly has a very deep abiding interest in gay goins on! Does he wank off when he reads this stuff too? Charlotte is NO hot bed of open minded thinking.

***

...He is such a fucking liar! No one even bothered to run against him in the last election. No wonder he got more votes in his (and mine) district than Bush and every other candidate that was running.

Keep on oinkin', Bill.

***

Anybody have 3 or 4 gig of scat porn lying around that we could email to this guy? Strictly for research purposes, of course.

***

Never thought my corner of the state (the Triad) would seem almost calm and progressive by comparison.

This fucker looks like the guy who flicked me off pulling out of a megachurch last weekend. And he's got Hannity-stink all over him.

***

AND answers from the man himself:
The study was from the Advocate in 1994. it was from 2,500 respondents. There are others as well.

I do think it is abhorrent and I do think it is wrong to engage in such behavior.

As how people here view me I have not had a problem. This is my 5 term and my views have been well know for a long time. The last election I got 63% of the vote. In fact, I got more votes in my district than George Bush and every Democrat and Republican candidate running. My views were known at the time they voted.

You are free to check out my web site and see for yourself. Coming from Alabama you (I would think) have your own problems.

As to your own aberrant behavior that is between you, God and your wife. Let's hope none of you get sick.

Commissioner Bill James
Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners
Matthews, North Carolina
http://billjames.org
Wjames@carolina.rr.com

***

From: Commissioner Bill James
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:42 AM
To: =email removed=
Subject: RE: What a Sweatheart

8 Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully, 9 understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 in accordance with the glorious gospel of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

Commissioner Bill James
Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners
Matthews, North Carolina
http://billjames.org
Wjames@carolina.rr.com

***

From: "Commissioner Bill James" (in italics; writer responds in between)
Nope. Society doesn't tolerate activity that is against good social order.
Why do you think we have laws that make prostitution a criminal act?


I would suspect with that attitude--as with your homophobia--you probably also patronize prostitutes. We tell a woman that she is not allowed to sell her body. We tell homosexuals that if we catch you engaging in perversity we will throw you jail.

And usually "you" people doing the telling are doing the same things behind closed doors--or church alters. Kind of like Klansman Strom Thurmond knocking up his 16-year-old slave. I suppose ol' Strom was a hero of yours. We have instructed the schools in North Carolina that they are not allowed to teach "your behavior" as normal, healthy or "alternative".

Don't you worry about perpetuating the widespread uneducated hillbilly image of North Carolinans?

Welcome to the South.

Maybe it's time for you folks to secede into your own little homophobic nation where you all can practice your hillbilly intrafamial heterosexual sex without worrying about outsiders peering into your barn doors or churches.

***

From: "Commissioner Bill James"
To: =email deleted=
Subject: RE: Mr. Commissioner
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:26:03 -0400

Naw, we are just going to take over all of America. Justice Sunday, Judicial appointments, George Bush...........Marriage Amendments. We are on our way. Perversity is not diversity.


Commissioner Bill James
Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners
Matthews, North Carolina

***

He also said 'Go and sin no more'.

You ought to try that. The "problem" is that you have convinced yourself that it isn't sin.

Hell is full of individuals who try to re-write the Bible for their own purposes.

One does not have to abandon Biblical precepts to condemn sin. I don't have to be 'sinless' to take a stand for Biblical values. I don't have to be 'perfect' to condemn that which the Bible calls an abomination.

if you think that no wonder you are screwed up. One of these days we will both be dead and then God will determine whether your view (not found in the Bible is correct) or whether mine (based on Biblical precepts and clearly outlined) is.


Commissioner Bill James
Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners
Matthews, North Carolina

***
Another reader really got into it with James...

He replied to me, My response is in bold, his original is in italics.

"1 Tim 1:8 Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully, 9 understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners,"

AND as Jesus said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Do you sincerely state that you are free of sin?

"for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 immoral persons, sodomites,"

Again, you only have sexual intercourse with your wife in the missonary position correct? Would you be willing to support an ordinance to require that all sexual relations be in the missonary style? Would you be willing for the government to check to ensure that this law is obeyed?

"kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 in accordance with the glorious gospel of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted."

"Jude 1: 7 " just as Sodom and Gomor'rah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. 8 Yet in like manner these men in their dreamings defile the flesh, reject authority, and revile the glorious ones."

Again, I certainly hope you are including heterosexuals in your bible based laws and ordinances as well. Sexual perversion exists in both communities.

"10 But these men revile whatever they do not understand, and by those things that they know by instinct as irrational animals do, they are destroyed."

I would agree, you seem to revile what you do not understand, in other words, you are either ignorant of human nature or in denial to the fact that ALL humans participate in sexual perversion; from the pope down to the little children playing "house".

"Timothy 3

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,"


Yes, I have often seen this in the Christian Fundamentalist communities throughout our nation. They do not walk the path of God or even that of the Christ Jesus. They have perverted the faith and perverted it in their name for their own political and social ends. Certainly the leaders of such flocks are, by and large, greedy, covetous, prideful, blasphemers, unholy, trucebreakers, false accusers, fierce, and despise those who seek to do good on this earth. You do not do good by hating everyone who is different, you do good by coming to understand them and their motives and to forgive them their trespasses. You assist them as much as you are able. Blessed are the meek and blessed are the peacemakers.

"4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

Again, read the above statement.

I am concerned, Sir, that you are attempting to impose biblical law on your constituancy. This nation was founded as a Republic, not a theocracy, please remember that. While the bible is a great source of spiritual guidance in this chaotic world, basing the law of our nation on 2,000 to 6,000 year old beliefs is a bit illogical. Consider the shellfish, consider the rabbit, consider polycotton blends, consider women wearing red dresses, consider disobedient children. Certainly I have heard the argument that the Fundamentalists use, "Jesus brought a new covenant". But did not Jesus say, "I have not come to change the law, I have come to fulfull it"? In other words, if we are to accept biblical law as the basis of our jurisprudence, then we much go back clear to Leviticus and include those laws as well.

Heterosexuals in this society are just as immoral and perverted as homosexuals. The difference is homosexuals, according to the bible, are sinners merely because of who they are. Heterosexuals have to actively attempt to sin in order to be abomination. Which is worse? The son who says no but does the job, or the son who says yes and never does the job? In other words, which is worse, a homosexual that holds the words of Jesus and God dear and follows the commandment "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", or a heterosexual who states that he is following the path of Jesus but in reality, goes against that all important commandment.

So again, sir, will you do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Or would you rather tell everyone else how they should live their lives? Perhaps you should pull the plank from your eye before telling everyone else to pull the speck from theirs?
Here's an exchange of emails beween another reader and the Bigot Commissioner from North Carolina:

Good Lord! It's often times hard to understand you anti-gay fanatics and your obsession with feces and such.

I think you need to consider that what really fuels your anti-gay, anti-same-sex mania is homophobia, and it has been shown that homophobia has been linked with homosexual arousal.

Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.

The authors of the study also noted that there is another, competing explanation: anxiety. That is, homophobia also arises as a result of the relative threat that you feel homosexuality poses to you.

It appears that you are operating at an extremely low level of psychological maturity and integration, and simply acting your psychological confilcts out in the public arena.

I strongly suggest you seek mental health treatment.

Paul

***

The study was from the Advocate in 1994. it was from 2,500 respondents. There are others as well.

I do think it is abhorrent and I do think it is wrong to engage in such behavior.

You are free to check out my web site and see for yourself.

Have a nice day.

Commissioner Bill James

***

Sorry darling, but you're wrong.

The study I noted, conducted by researchers at the University of Georgia, appeared in the August 1996 issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA).

As a licensed professional in the field, with a caseload comprised predominantly of gay people, I am an expert on this matter. You are not.

I know that you and your kind have a difficult time accepting empirical facts that contradict your disordered belief systems.

As far as your belief systems themselves, you can believe anything you want, as far as I'm concerned. When you try to do harm to others by imposing those beliefs on them, however, you cross the line. And when you do that, you can count on me and millions others like me, pushing back.

Paul

***

Push all you want. It hasn't stopped every anti-gay marriage amendment from passing nor has it stopped North Carolina from banning the teaching of homosexual behavior as normal (notwithstanding the swill put out by the APA). It hasn't stopped the County Commission from endorsing banning gay marriage not the re-election of George Bush and 5 new conservative GOP senators. This list is long but you get the drift.

You contacted me, you disagree with me. Fine. Duly noted. I have not changed my mind and the law in NC has not changed.

My belief system is how I vote and how tens of thousands of elected officials vote. What you think of my belief system is of little concern. As long as I am in this seat I will not vote to fund or endorse perversity. Period.

As to whether you are an expert or not I can't say. I can say that few politicians in my "neck of the woods" listen to "APA experts". Even the Democrats run away from you guys because of your reputations as enablers of the homosexual lifestyle.

Commissioner Bill James

***
You don't have to get pissy because I pointed out your factual inaccuracy.

You also don't need to say whether I'm an expert or not. My licensing board does that.

And I just love how you take such glee in rebuking the learned institutions of our nation. You just keep making my point, over and over again.

As far as your chest thumping, you've been operating under the radar for a long time, but now that you're out in the open in all your frothy glory, your days are numbered. Count on.

Paul

***

You see, that's my point. But, believe me, owning up to the problem is a vital first step. So, you've been obsessing about eating feces and fantasizing about people urinating on each other for 10 years now, since about 1995. What was happening in your life around that time?

Paul

***

From: Commissioner Bill James

No, you completely miss the point. I have not been obsessing about it. After I was elected in 1996 another commissioner put an item on the agenda to de-fund the arts for putting on a play (Angels in America). My views became widely known then because I voted to de-fund. We also instituted a policy stating that no counselor could discuss homosexuality without first getting the parents permission and consent about what was to be discussed. This was called "parents rights". That was in 1997.

Throughout the years this has come up from time to time but it was always brought up by others (liberals) who wanted to push the envelope. In 1996 it was a group that wanted to push comprehensive sex ed. I got that shot down and the 1997 Parents Rights Policy was the result. This is all on my web site.

I have found through observation that liberals bring up a subject but then get upset if conservatives object and state why.

Your analysis that perhaps there was "something happening" in my life is incorrect, I can assure you that was not the case.

This is not a topic I enjoy nor wish to discuss but I have found that if liberals bring it up the best way to back them into a corner and force them to drop the topic is to talk in stark direct blunt language. That language makes them shy away because of the political consequences in the South. There is no better way to put a liberal in the defensive on the subject of homosexuality than to discuss the actual act. It is amusing to watch.

The last few times the Democrats have tried it - they have lost the following election. Whether that happens this time depends on whether they follow through with their plans. If they don't, it will likely die. If they do then this place will be a three ring circus for some time and the Democrats will lose a lot of votes.

I view it as the Nuclear Option. As long as government doesn't start condoning it I could care less. When the liberals start trying to bring it up I take a course of action that I know has worked for a decade.


Commissioner Bill James